You’re right that the debate will probably rage for a long time. What’s interesting is that film was scorned when it was new, but it very quickly became well-respected. With videogames, the interactivity is so fundamentally different to all kinds of art that have gone before that it will really take something special, I think, to really make that breakthrough.

One thing I find interesting is the distinction between art and artistic. There’s dozens of artistic games out there, but are any of them actually art? Personally, I’d argue that at least one or two of my favourite games are art – NiGHTS into Dreams, for example – because it shows imagination and mastery of a number of forms, and is certainly an artistic game if nothing else.

I’m sure this debate will rage for years and years, particularly if people keep suggesting that any video game has surpassed Shakespeare. That just knocks us all back a few squares!